APBWiki - User contributions [en]

Talk:Summon the Heroes

2008-11-12T15:16:15Z

TrekMuse: New page: I disagree with the piece being called out as the "most" challenging piece in the library. I'll admit that the time signature and tempo changes add a difficulty which we usually don't wor...

I disagree with the piece being called out as the "most" challenging piece in the library. I'll admit that the time signature and tempo changes add a difficulty which we usually don't work with, but the parts are relatively straightforward beyond that.
*St. James and Basin St. both call out abrupt tempo and dynamic changes.
*Children of Sanchez (when played properly) and El Cumbanchero have noticably more demanding percussion parts - since we're not running any of the field elements on this piece, usually.
*The NFL on Fox cheer has more difficult entrances to grab onto
*The cheer versions of Play That Funky Music and Back in Black are more exposed
*The Trumpet Cheers definitely require even greater strength in the trumpet section
*Jump, Live and Let Die, Jungle Boogie, and certainly several others have harder rhythms to read
*Duel of the Fates requires more focus from the front line
*You Can Call Me Al calls for greater dynamic control as the solo there is on Flute/Picc
*And, though we may not always recognize it, Proud Mary and 55 both hold the tempo to a higher standard - if you slouch you lose the excitement, which means you need an experienced and rehearsed percussion section
*Lastly, Classical Gas takes the cake on meter changes - actually, it takes the whole bakery and the deli next door just for good measure. I'm working on it in my spare time.
:*I concede that the rapid eighths in the 12/8 section are very difficult because so much of the band is in unison and it'll sound like soup if you're not lined up vertically.
:*And I concede that there are a few call-and-response spots which will need more rehearsal than other sections, but not much more than Star Wars, really.
I agree that it's a difficult piece, but I disagree with saying it's the "most" difficult piece in the library.
*Last note: Don't worry about typing the parts. I emptied the last of my old boxes and found a copy of the score. No parts, but I still have Finale and can type up the parts. Might not be until January or so by the time it gets to y'all, but I figure that'll save someone the hassle and maybe save the band a little money.[[User:TrekMuse|TrekMuse]] 15:16, November 12, 2008 (UTC)

Summon the Heroes

2008-11-12T14:52:25Z

TrekMuse: See comment on "Talk" page.

{{stub}}
=About this song=
"Summon the Heroes" was written by John Williams for the 1996 Summer Olympic Games in Atlanta, Georgia. This version of the song is arranged by Paul Lavender with percussion by Barry Reese.

=Instrumentation requirements=
"Summon the Heroes" is among the more challenging pieces in the band's library, as it is very faithful to the original arrangement. Due to its fame/popularity, and the fact that it is a more symphonic piece, it should be rehearsed more thoroughly before a performance. A strong trumpet soloist is listed in the score, but the firsts can run the part as a soli (just tune first). A strong trumpet section in general is recommended since the song is, primarily, a fanfare. In addition, there are parts for xylophone, sleigh bells, and an optional timpani part that is not included in the score (and therefore probably doesn't exist in the library) - showing that the arrangement was intended for a field routine.

=Roadmap=
There are no repeats or codas in this song. The band plays straight through as written.

=History=
This song was purchased by [[Charlie Scaringello]] during his conductorship in the [[2003-2004]] season. It was given the number 434 at the time, but since no original copies exist save for a score, it was forgetten about soon afterward and 434 was given to [[434 - "Fever" from Dr. Mario|"Fever" from Dr. Mario]] instead in [[2006-2007|2006]]. Around the same time, the score to Summon the Heroes was rediscovered, and it currently exists without a number and only as a score.

[[Category:Songs]]

069 - The Pink Panther

2008-06-26T17:19:32Z

TrekMuse: I think James was right, on this one.

=About the song=
Written and arranged by Henry Mancini
=Instrumentation requirements=
Needs a strong sax section
=Roadmap=
There is a roadmap to this song, but I don't remember what it is. Someone fix this. [[User:James|James]] 22:34, 13 December 2006 (EST)

Unless the band reads the song differently than written, the roadmap is pretty straightforward. There are two repeats (both with 1st/2nd endings), and a DS back to measure 5, going to the coda after measure 24.

No, I think James is right. On my copy I have a note that there was a cut in the middle to make it a little shorter, but I don't have the specific measures marked. Perhaps someone from just before our time might have it? [[User:TrekMuse|TrekMuse]] 17:19, June 26, 2008 (UTC)

=History=
This is the theme song to the 1963 movie of the same name.

[[Category:Songs]]
[[Category:Active Songs (1996-2003)]]
[[Category:Active Songs (2003-2006)]]
[[Category:Active Songs]]

066 - Classical Gas

2008-06-26T17:15:04Z

TrekMuse: Unless I'm counting wrong, the initial time signature doesn't count as a change.

{{stub}}
=About the song=
Written by Mason Williams, arranged by Hal Leonard.

=Instrumentation requirements=

=Roadmap=
With '''16''' time signature changes, this is arguably the worst song to conduct in the pep band library. The F Horn part is also reportedly riddled with printing errors. This song should be left out of the active set until fixed or replaced.

=History=

[[Category:Songs]]
[[Category:Active Songs (2003-2006)]]

Talk:066 - Classical Gas

2008-06-26T17:10:50Z

TrekMuse: "Just think of it in 1/4" is hardly an explanation; but this tune can work.

Can someone with access to this music please send me the score and/or a '''complete''' set of parts to edit (including stuff we don't typically use like Bells, 2nd Alto Sax, etc). IIRC, just working with the score won't work because this one only has a very condensed score (possibly even just a piano reduction) and I would need to see all the parts. I really like the song, I think if the tempo is turned up a bit it can be peppy enough to work (and certainly works as it stands for a Pep Band in Concert type venue), and I would like to at least see if there is a way to improve the arrangement. The thing is, with the way it is currently written, the rhythms are actually very true to Mason Williams' intent. However, I agree, it is a bear to read. I think that much of the song can be reduced to Common Time, with accents to carry what is currently written as several other signatures. At the same time, send the score for Summon the Heroes and I'll start typing that up as well. Contact me by e-mail and I'll send shipping info. Thank you. [[User:TrekMuse|TrekMuse]] 17:10, June 26, 2008 (UTC)

065 - Star Wars "Main Title"

2008-06-26T16:58:15Z

TrekMuse: Instrumentation

=About the song=
Written by John Williams. 
Arranged by Bob Lowden.

=Instrumentation requirements=
Needs lots of brass

Despite (or, possibly, because of) this song's popularity, it should be practiced at least once per year to make sure that all players are familiar with their entrances/notes/harmonies and overall balance for this particular arrangement.

A quick round of tuning can also be helpful with this one.

=History=
This is the opening theme to the 1977 movie of the same name.

{{Recording
|titlecolor=red|
|nameofrecording=America's Pep Band (album)
|prevtrack=[[Dr. Who|4. Doctor Who]]
|curtrack=5. Star Wars
|nexttrack=[[142 - Gimme Some Lovin'|6. Gimme Some Lovin']]}}

[[Category:Songs]]
[[Category:Active Songs (1996-2003)]]
[[Category:Active Songs (2003-2006)]]
[[Category:Active Songs]]

060 - Liberty Bell March

2008-06-26T16:50:47Z

TrekMuse: About the Song - Note Re: Monty Python

{{stub}}
=About the song=
Written by John Phillip Sousa

Made famous in the opening sequence for Monty Python's Flying Circus following the line "And now, for something completely different."

=Instrumentation requirements=
=Roadmap=
=History=
[[Category:Songs]]
[[Category:Active Songs (2003-2006)]]

045a - Green Onions

2008-06-26T16:33:58Z

TrekMuse: written & arranged info

{{stub}}
=About this song=
Written by Booker T. Jones, Steve Cropper, Lewis Steinberg, and Al Jackson Jr.

Arranged by Tom Wallace

Percussion by Tony McCutchen

Originally recorded by Booker T. & the MG's.
=Instrumentation requirements=
=Roadmap=
=History=
Replaced [[45]].

Other Famous Performances include The Blues Brothers.
[[Category:Songs]]
[[Category:Active Songs (2003-2006)]]

Talk:Live from TSBMH 2008

2008-04-29T15:14:01Z

TrekMuse: coolness

Not to spoil the fun, but I wouldn't distribute TSBMH recordings outside of Pep Band Members/Alumni. TSBMH officials/employees/volunteers/drones - like any professional recording/performance venue - are rather strict on forbidding any sort of recording: audio, video, or even just photos. Liscencing issues aside, it's the fact that venues consider a live recording a reflection upon not only the group, but the venue itself. And if the recording isn't done to their satisfaction, it reflects poorly on them and damages their reputation. For a place like TSBMH, this would be a HUGE deal. Granted, I'm out of the loop on things and RMA may have already saught permission for recordings (something which is definitely an option to pursue, at least occassionally - they're typically rather polite about things if you ask first), and granted it's rather difficult to enforce this after the fact since digital records are hard to guarantee destroyed, but I thought you guys should know. [[User:TrekMuse|TrekMuse]] 17:13, April 28, 2008 (UTC)

*We can check on this, but there was recording equipment set up at the hall for this year's concert so I'm assuming someone in the know got the green light from them. [[User:Gary|Gary]] 17:34, April 28, 2008 (UTC)

**The RMA had permission from the TSBMH to record the concert this year. [[User:Trick trickster|Trick trickster]] 17:53, April 28, 2008 (UTC)

*That's awesome. I'd love to hear how the groups did. [[User:TrekMuse|TrekMuse]] 15:14, April 29, 2008 (UTC)

The recording came out poor, except for the singing of the alma mater. I will make the recordings available for reference only. (The audio clipped terribly - I had the DAT recorder set wrong for the afternoon concert. The evening concert recording turned out great.) [[User:Malins|Malinski]] 05:53, April 29, 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Live from TSBMH 2008

2008-04-28T17:13:13Z

TrekMuse: Just an FYI for Pep Band officers

Talk:Conductor

2008-02-11T13:52:46Z

TrekMuse: I'm not old, I swear, I just remember a lot of random stuff

=1989-1990=
Does anyone know who (if anyone) conducted? [[User:HLPXX|HLPXX]] 22:37, April 16, 2007 (EDT)
*I don't know who conducted, but I'm guessing the information should be written on the side of the podium. [[User:Bickfa|Bickfa]] 17:43, April 17, 2007 (EDT)

I may be wrong, but if I remember conductor history correctly, the year after A. Olin Niles retired, the position of conductor was handled more ad hoc than anything else. There were a few people who led games repeatedly, but noone was actually appointed. It was supposed to be some sort of trial year for the band: if they could perform well without a paid conductor for a whole season, the Union (and/or the Arts department?) would let them continue as such. Might be good to ask someone closer to that era, like Prof. Derby, to verify. [[User:TrekMuse|TrekMuse]] 08:52, February 11, 2008 (EST)

Talk:Van Surfing

2008-01-10T13:58:13Z

TrekMuse:

While it's a neat little tradition, and certainly a ton of fun, Van Surfing is "officially" frowned upon by the 'tute and the Union. With that in mind, perhaps this page should cease to exist, as it may backfire on the band much the way that dangerous Youtube or MySpace vidoes have done to people in the past. I know that they typically don't do anything about it - I mean, heck, we loaded something like 8 or 10 people into the van when we were packing up from Accepted Students day in 2003 and we were in plain sight right next to Public Safety and they said nothing. Call me old, but even with that event in mind, I'm wary of making such a permanent and public declaration of the tradition - and even more so of putting up photographic evidence. [[User:TrekMuse|TrekMuse]] 13:28, January 8, 2008 (EST)

::Make it a page that can be viewed only if you are logged in? [[User:Malins|Malinski]] 18:33, January 8, 2008 (EST)
:::If that's an option, it sounds like that would work best. James? [[User:Trick trickster|Trick trickster]] 13:41, January 9, 2008 (EST)
::::I agree. Good idea. [[User:TrekMuse|TrekMuse]] 08:58, January 10, 2008 (EST)

Talk:Van Surfing

2008-01-08T18:28:47Z

TrekMuse: A Note of Caution?

Steve Derby

2007-12-10T13:29:41Z

TrekMuse:

{{stub}}

(Major) '76

===Info===
*Euphonium: 197?-19??
*[[Manager|Asst. Manager]]: [[1975-1976]]
*[[Manager|Senior Manager]]: [[1976-1977]]

Currently a professor of Mechanical Engineering.

[[Category:People|Derby, Steve]]
[[Category:Managers|Derby, Steve]]
[[Category:Euphoniums|Derby, Steve]]

Talk:Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute

2007-11-13T22:15:41Z

TrekMuse:

Is RPI so insignificant that the page was just created today??!!?! [[User:Malins|Malinski]] 16:54, November 13, 2007 (EST)
:Basically, yeah it is. Anyone who's using this wiki already know what RPI is, so the page has no needed content. [[User:Bickfa|Bickfa]] 17:12, November 13, 2007 (EST)
::Yeah, I'm tempted to say we just make the page a link to the 'Tute's home page, wiki page, and some "official" history page (probably through Admissions or something). [[User:TrekMuse|TrekMuse]] 17:15, November 13, 2007 (EST)

Curious, though, what has made it to the AKA list. There was a movement for some time to actually make it Rensselaer University. I think it was in the transition time into Dr. Jackson's tenure. It was eventually abandoned (or so the story goes). Of course, attempting this would involve massive renovations to Sage, West, and Carnegie; approx. 3 new buildings; a massive staffing surge coupled with departmental and infrastructure overhauls; and magically usurping the long-standing perception that the School of H&SS is pretty much just for electives, minors, second majors, EMAC, EArts, STSS, and random graduate students. Oh, and they'd need to build a state-of-the-art performance center ... hey wait a minute, aren't they in the middle of... [[User:TrekMuse|TrekMuse]] 17:15, November 13, 2007 (EST)

051 - Championship

2007-10-26T16:43:31Z

TrekMuse: About the Song notes, an Instrumentation note, and instructions on how to do a "silent count-off" for the song.

{{stub}}
=About the song=
Written by Keith Mansfield. 
Arranged by John Higgins.

Little is known about the origins of this song other than that CBS once used it as opening music for their coverage of a golf tournament in the 1980's. A number of other bands include this in their repertoire (eg: Brown) but noone seems to be able to find an "original" recording.

=Instrumentation requirements=
The opening downbeat is a bass drum hit with brass on the upbeat. They have to be watching very closely at the beginning.

=Roadmap=
With the loud and sudden opening to the song, (and its fanfare-like style - as opposed to rock or jazz) the song has the capacity to be more dramatic with a "silent" count-off. [[Charlie Scaringello]] started this technique (in recent memory, anyways) and typically did this by counting off two measures. For the first measure call out "1 ... 2" on beats 1 and 3 (like usual), then call out beats 1, 2, and 3 of the second measure decreasing in volume very quickly such that 3 can only be heard by the band and beat 4 is silent. Make sure you conduct all 8 beats and that the band is paying attention - otherwise you get a subdued cachophony.

=History=

{{Recording
|titlecolor=red|
|nameofrecording=America's Pep Band (album)
|prevtrack=[[239a - Vehicle|16. Vehicle]]
|curtrack=17. Championship
|nexttrack=[[043 - Gospel John|18. Gospel John]]}}

[[Category:Songs]]
[[Category:Active Songs (1996-2003)]]
[[Category:Active Songs (2003-2006)]]
[[Category:Active Songs]]

Talk:1982-1983

2007-10-18T13:20:02Z

TrekMuse: On boom sticks and natural noise

"Three-foot long horns" - is this where the 100% natural noise rule came from? [[User:HLPXX|HLPXX]] 21:51, October 17, 2007 (EDT)
:I think you might be right. These are the infamous [[Freakout horn]]s. They resulted in an NCAA rule prohibiting the distribution of "artificial noisemakers" as promotional items. I'm not entirely sure how the "boom sticks" don't fall under this category as well. [[User:James|James]] 23:19, October 17, 2007 (EDT)
::IIRC, talk at the time was that the "boom sticks" didn't violate the rule because they tried to find a loophole. Each fan was only given one, thus creating the argument that one "boom stick" can only create the equivalent sound of one hand clapping. This is, of course, feeble at best. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it isn't just a ban on "artificial noisemakers" but on anything except pep bands, sound systems, and "natural noise" while the teams are on the ice. Which is where our hats come from and why Union's garage band can only play during intermission. [[User:TrekMuse|TrekMuse]] 09:20, October 18, 2007 (EDT)

User talk:Trick trickster

2007-10-18T13:14:23Z

TrekMuse: Info for work on Freeze Frame

I think it's awesome that [[Random Colgate fan in the green shirt who was being an asshole and pretend conducting when Dan was conducting the band]] is now a wanted page. [[User:Sarah|Sarah]] 20:53, March 8, 2007 (EST)

You've received an award for creating the 500th stub! :-) [[User:HLPXX|HLPXX]] 21:58, April 10, 2007 (EDT)

If anyone could tell/show me how to put files on my RPI webspace, I'd be glad to post my progress so far. [[User:Trick trickster|Trick trickster]] 15:06, July 25, 2007 (EDT)
:Easiest way from off campus is to get a copy of [http://winscp.sf.net/ WinSCP] and point it at rcs.rpi.edu. Log in with your username and password, then drop the files in the public_html folder. [[User:James|James]] 00:31, July 26, 2007 (EDT)

I really like the idea of the "unnamed 2008 ECAC Championship pep band event". Let me know if there's anything that I can do to help out with making it happen. [[User:Bickfa|Bickfa]] 20:34, August 28, 2007 (EDT)
:Right now I'm playing the waiting game - I need to hear from Rick Hartt and at least some of the other pep bands before we can proceed. But I'll definitely keep you in mind when we really get the ball rolling. [[User:Trick trickster|Trick trickster]] 12:07, August 29, 2007 (EDT)

James, when you read this can you please send Natalie a password ([mailto:semczn@rpi.edu RPI email]). Thank you. [[User:Trick trickster|Trick trickster]] 18:18, September 12, 2007 (EDT)
:Her account is 'semczukn'. Go to the login page, type in that account, and click 'email password'. A new password will automatically be sent. [[User:James|James]] 13:21, September 13, 2007 (EDT)

I just edited the Children of Sanchez page, and realized that I have information on what to practice for the sax part, but there really isn't a good place to put it on the current song page template. Could we have another section labelled "Notes" or something similar and subdivide it to the different parts? [[User:Trick trickster|Trick trickster]] 15:25, September 17, 2007 (EDT)
:This sounds like a good idea to me. I'd suggest inserting it after the "Roadmap" section and before the "Dances" section. [[User:Bickfa|Bickfa]] 16:13, September 17, 2007 (EDT)

There *might* still be some bad blood between us and Clarkson over last year's ECAC Championship game. Call it a hunch. [[User:Trick trickster|Trick trickster]] 15:36, September 17, 2007 (EDT)

"...unethical for bands who are not in the Championship Tournament to be present there." Gee, you get that feeling too? Shame that all the other bands will be there anyway, and we can have a big unethical band party while Clarkson mopes and makes pouty faces at us. Nevermind that the league, the arena, the rest of the bands, and the fans would all like to see this happen. [[User:Gary|Gary]] 15:38, September 17, 2007 (EDT)
:Well, at least they're consistent. They've never shown any desire to get along with any of the other band's in the ECAC (except Brown supposedly) so it's not any huge surprise to me that they don't want to try to start now. [[User:Bickfa|Bickfa]] 16:10, September 17, 2007 (EDT)
::Cluck Farkson. [[User:James|James]] 16:22, September 17, 2007 (EDT)
::Everybody Knows.... [[User:Rockchops|Rockchops]] 20:17, September 17, 2007 (EDT)

Regarding Freeze Frame, you might want to contact Steele about it. When I put together Active Set 2003-2006, I started by pulling parts from the file cabinet with the originals. Mike Brown didn't explain until later that I shouldn't've gotten the parts from there, but instead from a safeguard he set up (when he overhauled the library) for librarian use. The only effect of my having gone to the drawers was (aside from generating a ton of extra work for myself) that there are/were two printings of Freeze Frame. As I understand it, Steele wrote the first draft to the recording - and as such it has all the intricate harmonies and background rhythms. Then some parts were re-written to make the tune more useable (rather than needing every part to be covered and balanced). By the time we found this, Mike Brown and I had already re-set that librarian's safeguard and the versions were mixed together (he didn't recall at the time that the first version was still in the drawers). You may save yourself some noticable time and effort by contacting Steele (through the Alumni group?) to see if he still has the original parts. [[User:TrekMuse|TrekMuse]] 09:14, October 18, 2007 (EDT)

Skate, Shoot, Score

2007-09-18T17:01:59Z

TrekMuse:

''Skate, Shoot, Score! ''(repeat a few times, then) 
''Score, Score, Score! ''(repeat until goal is scored, or possession is lost) 

Note: This cheer is often blamed for our opponent gaining possession of the puck and dumping it out of their defensive zone by the more supersitious members of the band. As such, those members attempt to squash it when it is started, usually to no avail.

Like most any team, on some occassions, the Engineers have had a tendency to maintain puck posession but keep waiting for better angles/opportunities and losing puck possesion more often than actually shooting. During games when this is particularly frustrating, the last line is changed to ''Shoot, Shoot, Shoot!''

[[Category:Vocal cheers]]

040 - Saturday in the Park

2007-09-18T16:35:35Z

TrekMuse:

{{stub}}
=About the song=
Originally recorded by Chicago.

=Instrumentation requirements=
=Roadmap=
=History=
This piece was one of several reheased by a "trial band" at the end of the [[2002-2003]] year. While it was found that the arrangement is very accurate and musical, the song itself - while upbeat - is not one which naturally lends itself to a 'peppy' feel, so it was not added to [[:Category:Active Songs (2003-2006)|the next active set]].

[[Category:Songs]]

Charlie Scaringello

2007-09-18T16:34:28Z

TrekMuse: dhur, my own page is still a stub. I'll add the songs as I get to them.

{{stub}}
Mechanical Engineering, 2005 (December grad)

=== Information ===
*Clarinet: 2002-2003, 2004-2005
*[[Conductor]]: [[2003-2004|2003 - 2/2004 (resigned)]]
*Percussion: 2004-2005
*Tenor Sax: 2005

=== Songs Purchased/Introduced ===
*[[239b - Vehicle]]

===Song Line===
*[[Toll Booth Song|"Faster, Charlie!"]]

[[Category:People|Scaringello, Charlie]]
[[Category:Conductors|Scaringello, Charlie]]
[[Category:Clarinets|Scaringello, Charlie]]

Talk:039 - The Peanut Vendor

2007-09-18T16:02:51Z

TrekMuse: New page: I included the "National Registry" line, but I would like to know if folks think that sort of info is worthwhile or not. I think the national registry is a fascinating concept, but I may ...

I included the "National Registry" line, but I would like to know if folks think that sort of info is worthwhile or not. I think the national registry is a fascinating concept, but I may be alone in that opinion. Thoughts? [[User:TrekMuse|TrekMuse]] 12:02, September 18, 2007 (EDT)

039 - The Peanut Vendor

2007-09-18T16:00:59Z

TrekMuse: Added what little info I have on this one.

{{stub}}
=About the song=
Written by Moises Simons

Arranged by Bill Moffit

Listed in the US National Recording Registry, as "the first American recording of an authentic Latin dance style. ... introducing U.S. listeners to Cuban percussion instruments and Cuban rhythms."

=Instrumentation requirements=
Tune the front line. The parts are a little high and tend to stay there.

=Roadmap=
Balance plays a key part in this tune as both the bass line and the front line parts are an ostenato for much of the piece.

=History=
[[Category:Songs]]
[[Category:Active Songs (2003-2006)]]

Talk:034 - Patton Theme

2007-09-17T17:03:36Z

TrekMuse: New page: There's an option for a longer opening similar to the film's, but I'd need to look at the score and think on it for a bit to write it out. It's simple, just snare, bass, and flutes, but I...

There's an option for a longer opening similar to the film's, but I'd need to look at the score and think on it for a bit to write it out. It's simple, just snare, bass, and flutes, but I don't remember off the top of my head.[[User:TrekMuse|TrekMuse]] 13:03, September 17, 2007 (EDT)

034 - Patton Theme

2007-09-17T17:02:31Z

TrekMuse: Largely Roadmap info. Still having a browser issue, though.

=About the song=
Written by Jerry Goldsmith. 
Arranged by John Tatgenhorst.

=Instrumentation requirements=
Good, steady percussion. Sharp snares on the snare drums - you don't want a ton of ring.

Some strength in the flute section can make a nice addition here.

Trumpets who know how and when not to blast.

=Roadmap=
Standard march tempo and beat.

Conduct/play/think the 6/8 in a brisk 2 and you'll be able to maintain a constant tempo. It'll just feel faster at the 2/4 because there's only 2 eighth notes per beat instead of 3. Don't get tricked into speeding up - it's still a march and armies don't run while on parade.

Leave plenty in reserve when hitting the mf at A. While the theme changes by way of voices, that easily gets lost in a place like the Fieldhouse. Use dynamics to your advantage to keep it interesting.

When approaching C, the preceeding two measures are poorly arranged. For most parts: Take the 3 notes in measure C-2 and make them an even triplet. Take the first 3 notes of C-1 and do the same. Ignore the 4th note of C-1. This is much closer to the intended rhythm of the piece.

The repeat is long and leads all the way back to A, through to the end of the piece, but given the variety of C, it's usually rather nice. If you do opt for the whole piece, make sure not to kill your volume too soon. You'll need to make D a slight touch louder the second time around.

The option for an abridged ending would be to take the repeat and end at the downbeat of C, but playing the first beat of A as a short quarter note. It sounds tricky, but it's really not. Maintain the triplets in the two measures leading up to C for this ending.

=History=
This is the theme from the 1970 movie ''Patton''

[[Category:Songs]]
[[Category:Active Songs (1996-2003)]]
[[Category:Active Songs (2003-2006)]]
[[Category:Active Songs]]

033 - El Cumbanchero

2007-09-17T16:41:10Z

TrekMuse: There's something funky going on in my browser. I don't intend a blank line in "Instrumentation Requirements" but it doesn't want to make 2 single spaced lines.

=About the song=
Written by Rafael Hernandez. 
Arranged by Bill Moffit.

Yes, the original does have lyrics - they're in Spanish.

=Instrumentation requirements=
Needs lots of drums, and '''fast''' (about half = 120).

Snares (or at least the lead snare) should be turned off as the tom-tom sound is more important.

=Roadmap=
Starts out with just drums, then builds.

=History=

{{Recording
|titlecolor=red|
|nameofrecording=America's Pep Band (album)
|prevtrack=[[057 - Joshua|13. Joshua]]
|curtrack=14. El Cumbanchero
|nexttrack=[[119 - Basin Street Blues|15. Basin Street Blues]]}}

[[Category:Songs]]
[[Category:Active Songs (1996-2003)]]
[[Category:Active Songs (2003-2006)]]
[[Category:Active Songs]]

Talk:2007-2008

2007-09-17T16:30:56Z

TrekMuse:

MALINSKI NO [[User:Trick trickster|Trick trickster]] 18:01, September 15, 2007 (EDT)
*No to what???!![[User:Malins|Malinski]] 01:41, September 16, 2007 (EDT)
**I might be alone in thinking this, but I'm of the opinion that we don't need an article for each game that we play at (and that it doesn't even bear mentioning on the season article), and that we certainly don't need to keep track of every song that we ever play for the wiki. [[User:Trick trickster|Trick trickster]] 11:44, September 16, 2007 (EDT)
**There's interesting data that could be gathered from keeping this kind of information (most/least played songs/sheers, number of times cheers are recycled in a single game), but I'm not sure to what end it would be used. If a song is played too much, the band should notice and mention it to the conductor. You're effectively using the wiki as a tally board, which is ok, but as Chris says, it shouldn't be linked from the season pages; they have enough on them as it is. If you really feel compelled to do this, you could link to them through your user page or something. [[User:HLPXX|HLPXX]] 14:00, September 16, 2007 (EDT)
**I'll link them off my user page - I'll fix it as soon as I get a chance. [[User:Malins|Malinski]] 20:03, September 16, 2007 (EDT)
***Along these lines, I've been kicking around ideas for content on the Freakout pages. I thought it might be nice to have a list of guest/ex-conductors, and what they conducted. I think a full breakdown of each song might be a bit much. [[User:HLPXX|HLPXX]] 21:50, September 16, 2007 (EDT)
**I'm not even all that sure how useful the data would be since what songs are played on any given night is dependent things other than just the whim of the conductor such as instrumentation. However, if Malinski really wants to compile it, who am I to say no? [[User:Bickfa|Bickfa]] 22:38, September 16, 2007 (EDT)
**I can see information on each game being useful in some ways. Not any ways that we'll see right off the bat, of course, but at least somewhere it might be kinda nice to keep a record of things like what was played (song-wise, there's too much traffic to bother tracking cheers IMO), and major things that happen to the band (eg: the football playoff game in Nov. 2003 when we were moved to behind the end zone b/c the Athletics Department wanted more room in the main grandstand). Sometimes, yes, song selection is based more on available personnel than what the conductor and/or band would like to play. But a list may still be helpful to help point out or avoid ruts and the like. However, there may be a danger to making a permanent, publically available list of all pieces the Pep Band performs at every game. Given how murky the relatively new field of Intellectual Property Law is, added to how touchy the music industry as a whole gets about their IP, the Pep Band (hell, all Pep Bands) could be construed as not properly following licensing. It's a touchy field and horribly nebulous. Basically, precident states (and industry upholds), if you're performing (or playing a recording of) something publically, you're required to pay a performance royalty to ... someone. The recording company, the band, the copyright holder, ASCAP, - I'm honestly not 100% certain how that works technically. Granted, I don't think they would care or bother as we're not turning a profit, and the fact that they'd pretty much be setting a legal precedent against every high school and college marching band, and every community band. But, by posting such a set list publically, we'd certainly have put the ammunition in their guns for them should they direct their attention our way. Perhaps put it behind a password? Again, it might make for an interesting, though probably incomplete, database. And the wiki isn't such a bad place for it. But I don't know if positing it for all the world to see is a great idea. [[User:TrekMuse|TrekMuse]] 12:30, September 17, 2007 (EDT)

013a - In the Stone

2007-09-13T16:43:43Z

TrekMuse: /* Roadmap */

{{stub}}
=About this song=
Originally recorded by Earth, Wind and Fire
=Instrumentation requirements=
=Roadmap=
Most, if not all, of the parts are printed on two pages. As this tune has very little playtime behind it, this hasn't been addressed. If it becomes active, this may need to be cut (or, a simpler solution, don't play this one when it's windy).

=History=
Replaced [[13]].
[[Category:Songs]]
[[Category:Active Songs (2003-2006)]]

Talk:013a - In the Stone

2007-09-13T16:38:23Z

TrekMuse: Same question as 003

=History?=
Again, with this one I've got 'Added to the active library when heard performed by Cornell's pep band at the Pepsi Arena for the 2003 fan fest.' This is a temporary brain dump. See 003 for the discussion on it.

Talk:003 - United States Bicentennial March

2007-09-13T16:30:38Z

TrekMuse: Potential info for the article? Send thoughts.

=History?=
Gradually getting back to working on this stuff again. Don't know if this is material we'd want to include, so I'm posting it here temporarily. In running through my music, I'm trying to see if there's any info we could post about each song beyond what's on the sheet music itself. For this one (and at least a few others) I've only got things to the tune of 'Added to the [[:Category:Active Songs (2003-2006)|Active Library at the time]] in efforts to have actual marches on hand should the need for one ever come up.' I know the front page says "we want anything ..." but, does anyone consider this sort of info worth adding? The only benefit that jumps to the front of my mind immediately: 'It may give insight into previous active library builds, which may then be referenced when making later builds.' Thoughts, folks? [[User:TrekMuse|TrekMuse]] 12:30, September 13, 2007 (EDT)

User:TrekMuse

2007-06-06T22:05:31Z

TrekMuse: Updated e-mail address.

I'm [[Charlie Scaringello|Charlie Scaringello]] '05, clarinetist, percussionist, saxophonist, and former conductor & librarian of America's Pep Band. 

===To do===
*Fill out wiki pages for [[:Category:songs|songs]] I have info for (a little at a time) ... heck, potentially just do a brain dump.
*Finish the Lord of the Rings cheer-set and deliver it to the band.
*Find or Re-Type the parts to 434 - Summon the Heroes, write its wiki page, and hopefully come up to hear it played/rehearsed.
*Document Improved/Alternate Roadmaps for [[073 - The Muppet Show Theme|73]] and [[423 - Ghostbusters| 423]].
*Arrange half the songs and cheers I've thought of arranging for the band
*Arrange the other half of the songs and cheers I've thought of arranging for the band
If you'd like to assist on any of them, I'd certainly welcome the help! Also it may cut down on redundant work and save us both time.

Contact me through Gmail at MartianOpus, or the discussion tab for this page.

===Favorite songs===
* [[051 - Championship]] Always sounds amazing
* [[073 - The Muppet Show Theme]]
* [[387 - Children of Sanchez]] Especially when playing snare
* [[164 - Carry On My Wayward Son]]
* [[034 - Patton Theme]]
* [[423 - Ghostbusters]]
* [[429 - Mr. Roboto]]
* The Anthems, because, as Bill said "It's really the only time we're all in tune and following closely. It's all downhill from there."
I'd list a couple more, but that'd just be silly.

===Least favorite songs===
* [[414 - Duel of the Fates]] AKA: Duel of the monotonous 16th notes
* [[420 - Soul Bossa Nova]] It's catchy, but I don't like Austin Powers at all
* [[020 - Live and Let Die]] Not a fan of the song or this arrangement

===Songs I'd like to read===
* [[066 - Classical Gas|"Just think of it in 1/4 time. Then the time signature never changes."]] It's a bear to conduct (I'd know, I tried), but I really like the original tune
* [[114 - Jump]] Another tough but good one
* [[208 - Land of Make Believe]] Great tune. We tried it once, but it didn't catch on with too many people.
* [[237 - Overture from "Tommy"]] Another great tune stuck as being a one-hit wonder. And both are great arrangements.
* [[255 - We Built this City]] and [[301 - Theme from Star Trek IV]] Accurate arrangements, but they may need reworks to be a little easier to play without a ''complete'' complement of instruments playing strongly

User talk:TrekMuse

2007-06-06T22:04:26Z

TrekMuse:

You'll probably want to mention the songs that you are thinking about arranging, as at least two of us and possibly as many as five of us are already working on arranging songs of our own It wouldn't make much sense for us to be arranging the same thing. [[User:Trick trickster|Trick trickster]] 22:44, April 30, 2007 (EDT)
:Good point. Once I get some time to sort myself out a little bit more, I'll add a brief list. I don't know protocol/convention, but I'm thinking I'll add a section on my page for arranging, break it up by cheers, game songs, and performance songs (eg: 165 - Jurrassic Park) and try to update progress. I would love to work with folks on some tunes. CPS Arranging has sat dormant far too long. [[User:TrekMuse|TrekMuse]] 09:41, May 1, 2007 (EDT)

I agree that [[208]] is a great tune. It sounded good in ''Blast!''. I thought we did a reasonably good job of reading it the one or two times we did. I think the pep band could play it, but I don't think it would be a good choice for any of our normal venues. Maybe if this "Pep Band in Concert" thing catches on, it would be good there. The major problem with it is that it's '''boring'''. It's boring to play (c'mon, the mello "melody" consist of 6 notes, then a 4 ''measure'' hold, repeated), and quite frankly, it's boring to listen to. So yeah, who knows... [[User:James|James]] 09:21, May 9, 2007 (EDT)
:I can certainly see where it becomes boring. It's one of those tunes you have to do something with to prevent it from becoming monotonous. I've always wondered if we couldn't do something similar to ''Blast!'' where members of the band go out into the audience or something. But I think even that would do better with Pep Band in Concert. I like the concert idea as a once a year thing. Maybe TSBMH, maybe DCC 308. Honestly the week before I stepped down I was talking with Bob about reserving 308 for a night for that sort of thing. Could be fun ... [[User:TrekMuse|TrekMuse]] 09:54, May 9, 2007 (EDT)

== Arranging ==

Unfortunately, you need sibelius (probably version 4) to view the scores I have posted. I could save them as midis, but they just don't sound or look as good that way. I can email you a copy of it if you'd like, you'll just need something to unzip the .rar. [[User:HLPXX|HLPXX]] 14:39, June 6, 2007 (EDT)
:Saw the files on your webspace (should've checked that first) and you're right. Finale 2003 wasn't able to translate the files. Sibelius it is, then! Whenever you have the time, MartianOpus is my G-mail address. To say things at work are busy at present is an understatement, but I'll look it over as I'm able.[[User:TrekMuse|TrekMuse]] 18:04, June 6, 2007 (EDT)

User talk:HLPXX

2007-06-06T11:15:21Z

TrekMuse: On arranging

==To do==

*Digitizing the Library
:I have found a copier that will scan pages and email them as pdfs. This removes my need for someone else's scanner, and perhaps will make it possible for me to start digitizing the pep band library as a safety precaution against part loss. Anyone can use the copier, however to get to it, your ID card needs special access. If anyone else has a scanner and wants to scan music, I will not stop you. I am offering my talk page as a means of tracking which songs have been scanned, so that organization can be made easier. I figure that one of the younger band members can eventually start burning these to dvd (I only say younger because T40s don't have dvd burners -.-' I realize this project will take '''much''' longer than the time I have left at RPI, it's just that it'll never get done until it gets started.
::A question and a suggestion: where are you keeping the scanned versions right now, and can you scan handwritten parts first? Hail, Alma mater, and the Rensselaer Union march are three songs that come to mind. Also, you might want to make mention next to each song scanned if any of the parts need touched up in photoshop. [[User:Trick trickster|Trick trickster]] 00:14, February 28, 2007 (EST)
:::As of now, the one song I have scanned is on my computer. We could centralize the data, I'm just not sure how readily available I should make copies of copyrighted media. If we don't care, I'll put them on my RPI webspace. I agree that handwritten parts get scanned first - I only scanned 112 because I had it, and to make sure the method worked. Finally, if we're going to go into photoshop, I'll have to talk to someone about borrowing a cd or 4...

 
 
*On arranging. Walking on the Sun and some sort of something from Pirates of the Carribbean were pieces I was considering. I'm interested to see what you've got and offer input if you'd like. [[User:TrekMuse|TrekMuse]] 07:15, June 6, 2007 (EDT)
 
*I'd like to thank God, the Academy, and boredom. [[User:Trick trickster|Trick trickster]] 22:05, April 10, 2007 (EDT)

===Songs that have been digitized===
*[[041 - Hail, Dear Old Rensselaer]] - who knew there was 3rd trombone and 3rd clarinet (and also Eb clar.) parts?
**Similar to Malaguena, some parts didn't want to scan nicely. I'm going to fix this.
::UPDATE -18:17, April 13, 2007 (EDT): The following parts do not wish to be scanned, at least legibly, by the scanner I'm using. Someone else is welcome to try to get better scans of: 
::*The ORIGINAL flute/picc part
::*The NEW flute part (hail only, alma mater scans fine)
::*ALL clarinet 1 parts (original hail, new hail (has no 1st/2nd distinction) and new alma mater)
::*The new clarinet 2 alma mater
::*3rd cornet
*[[112 - Malaguena]]
**For some reason, a handful of the parts did not want to scan like the rest of them - flute, tuba and snare drum. They're legible, just not totally clean - no worse than a song that's been copied and recopied a number of times. I'll try rescanning them soon.

019 - The Horse

2007-05-29T16:42:48Z

TrekMuse: Remembered something.

=About the song=
Written by Jesse James. 
Arranged by Bill Moffit.

=Roadmap=
Starts with a measure of drums before the first written measure.

=Dances=
Through sections B, C, and G, the mid section and the front line swing their horns back and forth, left on beat 1, and right on beat 1 of the next measure (left is always first). The movement is usually in a parabolic shape, swinging down, across, up. Usually, the conductor will move in time with this. On occassion, more ambitious drummers will attempt to sway with this as well, but that's usually only simple for the bass drum.

=History=

{{Recording
|titlecolor=red|
|nameofrecording=America's Pep Band (album)
|prevtrack=[[387 - Children of Sanchez|31. Children of Sanchez]]
|curtrack=32. The Horse
|nexttrack=[[059 - Peter Gunn Theme|33. Peter Gunn Theme]]}}

[[Category:Songs]]
[[Category:Active Songs (1996-2003)]]
[[Category:Active Songs (2003-2006)]]
[[Category:Active Songs]]

Talk:019 - The Horse

2007-05-29T16:40:59Z

TrekMuse: Question to James (or anyone else in the middle row).

James, I assume that this is what you intended rather than beat 1 and beat 3. I could be wrong, but I know that's how the front row moves and I don't recall the lines not being in sync. [[User:TrekMuse|TrekMuse]] 12:40, May 29, 2007 (EDT)

019 - The Horse

2007-05-29T16:38:52Z

TrekMuse: A note on the dance for the song.

=About the song=
Written by Jesse James. 
Arranged by Bill Moffit.

=Roadmap=
Starts with a measure of drums before the first written measure.

=Dances=
Through sections B, C, and G, the mid section and the front line swing their horns back and forth, left on beat 1, and right on beat 1 of the next measure (left is always first). The movement is usually in a parabolic shape, swinging down, across, up. Oftentimes, the conductor will move in time with this.

=History=

{{Recording
|titlecolor=red|
|nameofrecording=America's Pep Band (album)
|prevtrack=[[387 - Children of Sanchez|31. Children of Sanchez]]
|curtrack=32. The Horse
|nexttrack=[[059 - Peter Gunn Theme|33. Peter Gunn Theme]]}}

[[Category:Songs]]
[[Category:Active Songs (1996-2003)]]
[[Category:Active Songs (2003-2006)]]
[[Category:Active Songs]]

008 - Bandstand Boogie

2007-05-29T16:30:45Z

TrekMuse: A note regarding instrumentation.

{{stub}}
=About the song=
Arranged by Bob Lowden

=Instrumentation requirements=
The opening (and much of the rest of the song) features the front row. Make sure they tune before you start as the parts are a little higher than for most other tunes.

=Roadmap=
=History=

[[Category:Songs]]
[[Category:Active Songs (1996-2003)]]
[[Category:Active Songs (2003-2006)]]

007 - Colonel Bogey March

2007-05-29T16:25:17Z

TrekMuse: Noting the connection to Spaceballs.

{{stub}}
=About the song=
Written by Kenneth J. Alford

Most band members will probably recognize this as the tune that the jawa-like creatures in Spaceballs sing. "Dink-dink, dink dink-dink dink, dink, dink!"

=Instrumentation requirements=
=Roadmap=
=History=
[[Category:Songs]]
[[Category:Active Songs (2003-2006)]]

RPI Pep Band Alumni Association

2007-05-22T19:26:10Z

TrekMuse: Added start date (at least so far as I know).

{{stub}}

The RPI Pep Band Alumni (and Friends) Association is an organization of former members of the pep band which organizing alumni events. It was founded in January 2003 by [[Chris Farrar]] ('''and others?''').

Currently, the Alumni Association publishes a quarterly newsletter, sends out RPI [[hockey]] and [[football]] news to it's mailing list, and organizing alumni gatherings at [[:Category:Freakout|Freakout]] and [[Pep Band Alumni Night]].

[[Category:RPI Organizations]]

Talk:Rensselaer Union (building)

2007-05-22T19:23:03Z

TrekMuse: Huh?

Isn't the Post Office in the basement? [[User:James|James]] 10:30, May 18, 2007 (EDT)

It's on the first floor. I fixed the page. [[User:Trick trickster|Trick trickster]] 10:55, May 18, 2007 (EDT)

There's a lounge with a TV and a second dining area? I mean, I think one of those back rooms we use for the Family Weekend concerts is for special catering, but is there something I missed? [[User:TrekMuse|TrekMuse]] 15:23, May 22, 2007 (EDT)

Category talk:Active Songs (1996-2003)

2007-05-22T16:57:59Z

TrekMuse:

Before this category gets fleshed out, we should figure out when the last major overhaul of the active set was before Charlie's overhaul in 2003 and put that year into the question marks in the category name. [[User:Bickfa|Bickfa]] 18:37, May 17, 2007 (EDT)

:IIRC, the summer I shared an apartment with [[Mike Brown]] he said that after [[1995-1996|his year as conductor]], he did the major overhaul to the library to set up the current system. That included: assigning many of the current song numbers (resulting in odditties such as all those opposing alma maters from 1930s having song numbers in the 300's), replacing lost parts in the originals folders, setting up the "librarian's originals" box/folders and "librarian's sets", and building a new active set to match all of it. As far as I know, there wasn't a major overhaul to the active set between then and mine - just that most (if not all) new songs were added to the end of it. [[User:TrekMuse|TrekMuse]] 11:09, May 21, 2007 (EDT)

::Just to check before I change the category name, Mike Brown did the library overhaul the summer after he was conductor (i.e.- summer 1996)? [[User:Bickfa|Bickfa]] 20:52, May 21, 2007 (EDT)

:::That was what I understood from what he told me. The set basically stopped at either 431, 432, or 433. 431 was the last song Vicky ordered and it was in the set for that year. 432 I brought in during Vicky's year because people were asking for Christmas/Holiday music other than 55 and Frosty, but I don't recall it making it to the set or rehearsals until the following year. 433 we got from Colgate on the overnight road trip that year - but we only had copies of it for something like 2 months so it never made it much past the opening being used as a cheer. [[User:TrekMuse|TrekMuse]] 12:57, May 22, 2007 (EDT)

The real question is. Does anyone still have a separate copy of this? I know Mike and I got rid of the librarian's originals after that overhaul so that copies couldn't be made of the wrong set. During a move in or out of the dorms, my two sets got mixed together and eventually just merged. I can probably backtrack, but it would be easier to just use a copy of the older set. [[User:TrekMuse|TrekMuse]] 11:09, May 21, 2007 (EDT)

:I believe that the column labeled "Old Set?" [http://pepband.union.rpi.edu/mcheers.html here] is the set before the one that you made in 2003 (it certainly doesn't seem to line up with the members of [[:Category:Active Songs (2003-2006)]]). [[User:Bickfa|Bickfa]] 12:52, May 21, 2007 (EDT)

::Wow! Now that's a lucky find. The one you're referring to is ''definitely'' the one prior to my work because off the top of my head, I know I removed F Troop and I know I added Colonel Bogey. Looks like this one might already be compiled for us - or at least most of it. [[User:TrekMuse|TrekMuse]] 13:57, May 21, 2007 (EDT)

Category talk:Active Songs (1996-2003)

2007-05-21T17:57:01Z

TrekMuse:

Before this category gets fleshed out, we should figure out when the last major overhaul of the active set was before Charlie's overhaul in 2003 and put that year into the question marks in the category name. [[User:Bickfa|Bickfa]] 18:37, May 17, 2007 (EDT)
:IIRC, the summer I shared an apartment with [[Mike Brown]] he said that after [[1995-1996|his year as conductor]], he did the major overhaul to the library to set up the current system. That included: assigning many of the current song numbers (resulting in odditties such as all those opposing alma maters from 1930s having song numbers in the 300's), replacing lost parts in the originals folders, setting up the "librarian's originals" box/folders and "librarian's sets", and building a new active set to match all of it. As far as I know, there wasn't a major overhaul to the active set between then and mine - just that most (if not all) new songs were added to the end of it. [[User:TrekMuse|TrekMuse]] 11:09, May 21, 2007 (EDT)

The real question is. Does anyone still have a separate copy of this? I know Mike and I got rid of the librarian's originals after that overhaul so that copies couldn't be made of the wrong set. During a move in or out of the dorms, my two sets got mixed together and eventually just merged. I can probably backtrack, but it would be easier to just use a copy of the older set. [[User:TrekMuse|TrekMuse]] 11:09, May 21, 2007 (EDT)

:I believe that the column labeled "Old Set?" [http://pepband.union.rpi.edu/mcheers.html here] is the set before the one that you made in 2003 (it certainly doesn't seem to line up with the members of [[:Category:Active Songs (2003-2006)]]). [[User:Bickfa|Bickfa]] 12:52, May 21, 2007 (EDT)

::Wow! Now that's a lucky find. The one you're referring to is ''definitely'' the one prior to my work because off the top of my head, I know I removed F Troop and I know I added Colonel Bogey. Looks like this one might already be compiled for us - or at least most of it. [[User:TrekMuse|TrekMuse]] 13:57, May 21, 2007 (EDT)

Category talk:Active Songs (1996-2003)

2007-05-21T15:09:18Z

TrekMuse: What I know of this.

User talk:Drummer52987

2007-05-18T14:56:27Z

TrekMuse: just my $.02 on new music. no big deal

I'll suggest more as jwpepper is updated, but here's what I think is worth looking at after a quick run through the site:
*Dr. Feelgood: http://www.jwpepper.com/ram/10009598.ram
*Free Bird: http://www.halleonard.com/dealerAudioTerms.jsp?myName=J.W.%20Pepper%20%26%20Son%20Inc&mp3=03745149.mp3

And apparently I broke the site and it's not working anymore right now. So I'll definitely have more suggestions later. [[User:Trick trickster|Trick trickster]] 02:01, March 25, 2007 (EDT)
Working again....here's some more
*Layla: http://www.jwpepper.com/ram/10008621.ram
*Me and Julio Down by the Schoolyard: http://www.jwpepper.com/ram/10009227.ram
*Rebel Yell: http://www.jwpepper.com/ram/10009605.ram
*Seven Nation Army: http://www.jwpepper.com/ram/10017910.ram
*Spirit In The Sky: http://www.jwpepper.com/ram/10017911.ram
*Stayin' Alive: http://www.jwpepper.com/ram/10008625.ram
*Superfly: http://www.jwpepper.com/ram/10017913.ram (I like this one a lot I think....the bass line is beefy)
*Johnny B. Goode: http://www.jwpepper.com/ram/2437523.ram
*House of the Rising Sun: http://www.jwpepper.com/ram/2477674.ram

Thanks, those are some great suggestions. I'm going online soon to see what I can find. I now declare this page the idea box of pep band songs we can purchase/play. [[User:Drummer52987|Drummer52987]] 09:17, March 25, 2007 (EDT)

Of those songs, I like these the best (just my $0.02):

*Johnny B. Goode
*Layla (if we can make it crisp)
*Rebel Yell
*Seven Nation Army (except for the ending, which is just weird)

[[User:Gary|Gary]] 21:38, March 25, 2007 (EDT)

The ones I like are:

*Dr. Feelgood
*Layla
*Rebel Yell
*Seven Nation Army
*Spirit in the Sky
*Superfly
*Johnny B. Goode

I'm also going to see what I can do about arranging "Limelight" or finding it. [[User:Drummer52987|Drummer52987]] 21:49, March 25, 2007 (EDT)

Not that I'll get to play much of any of these songs, but sure, I'll throw in some thoughts. I liked these:

*Freebird - If they have the guitar part optional, and the solo written somewhere else, it's worth a shot. Otherwise, forget about it.
*Layla (I'm with Gary, only if it'll be clean)
*Rebel Yell
*Seven Nation Army - This sounded like a great song; then it ended. I listened to it three times before I was sure there wasn't something wrong with Realplayer. Not only does weird not begin to describe it, it's going to be damn near impossible to pull off. If the trumpets get ambitious next year, this'll be a great song otherwise.
*Spirit in the Sky
*Johnny B. Goode
*House of the Rising Sun - While I'm a fan, a lot of people are going to think this isn't very peppy, and they're probably right.

All in all, with a couple of these songs, we'll have an excuse to bring the gong to more hockey games ;) [[User:HLPXX|HLPXX]] 22:28, March 25, 2007 (EDT)

Out of the ones listed, the ones I like best are Dr. Feelgood, Superfly, Rebel Yell, and Seven Nation Army(except for the godawful ending). I also really like Johnny B. Goode, but we need to go to the library to make sure the one we have isn't the same arrangement (I think it's 150 something). [[User:Trick trickster|Trick trickster]] 23:35, March 25, 2007 (EDT)
*It's 154 in the library. [[User:Gary|Gary]] 00:27, March 26, 2007 (EDT)

About the seven nation army ending: it does suck. But I think it can be easily fixed by having the trumpets play the normal chord and adding a good stinger. [[User:Drummer52987|Drummer52987]] 00:08, March 26, 2007 (EDT)

Some more songs I was looking at:
*Brooklyn: http://www.jwpepper.com/ram/10027140.ram
**It's not really typical of our style, but I think it sounds cool.
*Actually, I guess it was only one song I was looking at. [[User:Trick trickster|Trick trickster]] 23:05, April 23, 2007 (EDT)
:::I really like this one. While it's not in our usual style, I think that's a good thing. The trombone part follows the tubas for the most part, so it's ok if there aren't a lot of them. Mellos get the melody, and the trumpets are pushed to the background a lot. Not that I'd be getting much of a chance to play it, but it sounds nice. [[User:HLPXX|HLPXX]] 23:37, April 23, 2007 (EDT)

Out of what's listed, I like Me & Julio, House of the Rising Sun, Spirit in the Sky, and Johnny B. Goode. Ok, so maybe I'm old or something. If memory serves the Johnny B. Goode in the library isn't very good, but I would recommend reading through it at least once before buying it (maybe ask folks to stick around after a rehearsal for a few minutes, one to a part, to make sure you get a balanced sound to test it with). [[User:TrekMuse|TrekMuse]] 10:56, May 18, 2007 (EDT)

User:TrekMuse

2007-05-16T13:44:09Z

TrekMuse: added a bit to my ToDo and some clerical edits

I'm [[Charlie Scaringello|Charlie Scaringello]] '05, clarinetist, percussionist, saxophonist, and former conductor & librarian of America's Pep Band. 

===To do===
*Fill out wiki pages for [[:Category:songs|songs]] I have info for (a little at a time) ... heck, potentially just do a brain dump.
*Finish the Lord of the Rings cheer-set and deliver it to the band.
*Find or Re-Type the parts to 434 - Summon the Heroes, write its wiki page, and hopefully come up to hear it played/rehearsed.
*Document Improved/Alternate Roadmaps for [[073 - The Muppet Show Theme|73]] and [[423 - Ghostbusters| 423]].
*Arrange half the songs and cheers I've thought of arranging for the band
*Arrange the other half of the songs and cheers I've thought of arranging for the band
If you'd like to assist on any of them, I'd certainly welcome the help! Also it may cut down on redundant work and save us both time.

Contact me through ''SPCLists at gmail dot com'' (yes, I have a "real" e-mail address, this one is to deter bots. I'll reply via the other one) or the discussion tab for this page.

===Favorite songs===
* [[051 - Championship]] Always sounds amazing
* [[073 - The Muppet Show Theme]]
* [[387 - Children of Sanchez]] Especially when playing snare
* [[164 - Carry On My Wayward Son]]
* [[034 - Patton Theme]]
* [[423 - Ghostbusters]]
* [[429 - Mr. Roboto]]
* The Anthems, because, as Bill said "It's really the only time we're all in tune and following closely. It's all downhill from there."
I'd list a couple more, but that'd just be silly.

===Least favorite songs===
* [[414 - Duel of the Fates]] AKA: Duel of the monotonous 16th notes
* [[420 - Soul Bossa Nova]] It's catchy, but I don't like Austin Powers at all
* [[020 - Live and Let Die]] Not a fan of the song or this arrangement

===Songs I'd like to read===
* [[066 - Classical Gas|"Just think of it in 1/4 time. Then the time signature never changes."]] It's a bear to conduct (I'd know, I tried), but I really like the original tune
* [[114 - Jump]] Another tough but good one
* [[208 - Land of Make Believe]] Great tune. We tried it once, but it didn't catch on with too many people.
* [[237 - Overture from "Tommy"]] Another great tune stuck as being a one-hit wonder. And both are great arrangements.
* [[255 - We Built this City]] and [[301 - Theme from Star Trek IV]] Accurate arrangements, but they may need reworks to be a little easier to play without a ''complete'' complement of instruments playing strongly

Category talk:Active Songs (2003-2006)

2007-05-16T13:34:08Z

TrekMuse: My $.02 on a question and a quick status update on Summon the Heroes

Before I touch this any more, I want to make sure that everyone thinks it's a good idea. Also, if anyone can come up with a better description (shouldn't be too hard), go for it. [[User:Trick trickster|Trick trickster]] 00:31, May 1, 2007 (EDT)
:So, would this be a recurring thing, where there will be Category:Active Songs (2006-2007), Category:Active Songs (2007-2008), and so on? If this is the eventual plan, I see certain songs (Carry On comes to mind) being in waaaay too many categories. Just my $0.02 [[User:HLPXX|HLPXX]] 00:37, May 1, 2007 (EDT)
::Well I was figuring we'd only make a new category for major overhauls of the active set. Unless there's a really easy way to categorize each song with a range of years so that the active set can be searched year by year without having all of the separate categories that this system would require. But I doubt there is anything that easy. [[User:Trick trickster|Trick trickster]] 00:44, May 1, 2007 (EDT)
:::Maybe not so much categorizing each song, but you could make a page titled "Active set 2003-06" or something, with links to each song in that set. I imagine it's about the same amount of work, only this way, the link goes both ways. As long as it's only for major overhauls, it sounds like a good idea to me. We get to see the evolution of the active set. [[User:HLPXX|HLPXX]] 00:58, May 1, 2007 (EDT)
::::The active set overhaul in the summer of 2003 was the first time that sort of thing had been done since Mike Brown built the current library infrastructure (and the previous active set) in 1996. From that time forward, the only changes were adding the new songs for the year to the end of the set (usually done in August when new copies were made before the first rehearsal since tunes were usually ordered at the end of the prior year's budget). As I understand it, a similar re-structuring was done recently, creating a new active set. So, I guess lets start with the cross-referencing ability a Category would offer and if it seems cumbersome, we'll switch. Thankfully, with such a small dataset (3 active sets) it won't be too hard to change. [[User:TrekMuse|TrekMuse]] 09:34, May 1, 2007 (EDT)

I decided to start this. It was obvious to me that no one disagreed with this category's creation. If I'm wrong, I stopped at 50 so cleanup wouldn't be that hard. [[User:HLPXX|HLPXX]] 22:45, May 6, 2007 (EDT)
:Looking good so far. Out of curiosity, when I built the set I had photocopies of the scores made and blown up onto legal size or B size paper. I don't know if they're being used (in fact, I doubt it) but they'd be very useful for writing up info on all these and for future arranging. Any chance someone could take a look in the pep band closet in the library and see if they're still there? I'll gladly pay for shipping and/or pick them up on the weekend of the 18th. [[User:TrekMuse|TrekMuse]] 09:29, May 8, 2007 (EDT)
::The scores you're talking about are indeed in the pep band closet (at least they were as of 5 months ago, I haven't been in there lately). That brings up a question I have: do you know where the parts to 434 - Summon the Heroes are? The score is with the others, but we have no idea where the parts for it are. [[User:Trick trickster|Trick trickster]] 14:17, May 8, 2007 (EDT)
:::I noticed that on the songs page. It's possible they ended up misplaced in with my things, or simply somewhere else in the library. The next couple boxes of things from home may have them and I'm planning on going through them soon, so I'll keep an eye out. Hopefully they'll be there. I mean, I'll type the parts off the score, but I'd rather not have to. I'll keep you up to date. Let me know if you'll be around on the 19th or so and I'll hopefully have parts to deliver and pick up the scores. [[User:TrekMuse|TrekMuse]] 14:38, May 8, 2007 (EDT)
::::Work has been busy and I haven't completely unpacked said boxes yet, but a quick look didn't turn up anything. Another possibility is that Vicky has it because of the final month of the year, but either way, if there's still nothing by the time I empty those boxes and no new leads, I'll start re-typing the parts. Someone with a key: contact me by e-mail and we'll work out mailing the score(s). [[User:TrekMuse|TrekMuse]] 09:34, May 16, 2007 (EDT)

I have a trumpet 2 set that I've been using to fill in which songs were in this set. Since it's trumpet 2, it's either from '03-'04 or '04-'05, and there's no guarantee that I haven't lost a few pages. Feel free to fill in what I've missed. [[User:HLPXX|HLPXX]] 20:45, May 9, 2007 (EDT)
:I went through my old Flute part from '03-'06 and added the songs which weren't already on here. I didn't add 436, 437, 439, 440, 441, and 442 (all of which were introduced between 2003 and 2006) since I wasn't sure whether the category is meant to be any songs which were in the set at some point between the two years or whether it's only songs which were active for the full length of time. [[User:Bickfa|Bickfa]] 18:15, May 15, 2007 (EDT)
::I would say add them. As we continue we'll start filling in info on when songs were bought or introduced. If someone really needs to know if the song was in the set for the whole time, they can look it up on that song page and/or the conductor pages. [[User:TrekMuse|TrekMuse]] 09:34, May 16, 2007 (EDT)

User talk:TrekMuse

2007-05-09T13:54:30Z

TrekMuse:

User:TrekMuse

2007-05-09T11:32:51Z

TrekMuse:

I'm [[Charlie Scaringello|Charlie Scaringello]] '05, clarinetist, percussionist, saxophone player, and former conductor & librarian of America's Pep Band. 

===To do===
*Fill out wiki pages for [[:Category:songs|songs]] I have info for (a little at a time) ... heck, potentially just do a brain dump
*Finish the Lord of the Rings cheer-set and deliver it to the band.
*Arrange half the songs and cheers I've thought of arranging for the band
*Arrange the other half of the songs and cheers I've thought of arranging for the band
If you'd like to assist on any of them, I'd certainly welcome the help! Also it may cut down on redundant work and save us both time.

Open contact with me through ''SPCLists at gmail dot com'' (yes, I have a "real" e-mail address, this one is to deter bots. I'll send the real one once I hear from you) or the discussion tab for this page.

===Favorite songs===
* [[051 - Championship]] Always sounds amazing
* [[073 - The Muppet Show Theme]]
* [[387 - Children of Sanchez]] Especially when playing snare
* [[164 - Carry On My Wayward Son]]
* [[034 - Patton Theme]]
* [[423 - Ghostbusters]]
* [[429 - Mr. Roboto]]
* The Anthems, because, as Bill said "It's really the only time we're all in tune and following closely. It's all downhill from there."
I'd list a couple more, but that'd just be silly.

===Least favorite songs===
* [[414 - Duel of the Fates]] AKA: Duel of the monotonous 16th notes
* [[420 - Soul Bossa Nova]] It's catchy, but I don't like Austin Powers at all
* [[020 - Live and Let Die]] Not a fan of the song or this arrangement

===Songs I'd like to read===
* [[066 - Classical Gas|"Just think of it in 1/4 time. Then the time signature never changes."]] It's a bear to conduct (I'd know, I tried), but I really like the original tune
* [[114 - Jump]] Another tough but good one
* [[208 - Land of Make Believe]] Great tune. We tried it once, but it didn't catch on with too many people.
* [[237 - Overture from "Tommy"]] Another great tune stuck as being a one-hit wonder. And both are great arrangements.
* [[255 - We Built this City]] and [[301 - Theme from Star Trek IV]] Accurate arrangements, but they may need reworks to be a little easier to play without a ''complete'' complement of instruments playing strongly

User:TrekMuse

2007-05-09T11:32:26Z

TrekMuse:

I'm [[Charlie Scaringello|Charlie Scaringello]] '05, clarinetist, percussionist, saxophone player, and former conductor & librarian of America's Pep Band. 

===To do===
*Fill out wiki pages for [[:Category:songs|songs]] I have info for (a little at a time) ... heck, potentially just do a brain dump
*Finish the Lord of the Rings cheer-set and deliver it to the band.
*Arrange half the songs and cheers I've thought of arranging for the band
*Arrange the other half of the songs and cheers I've thought of arranging for the band
If you'd like to assist on any of them, I'd certainly welcome the help! Also it may cut down on redundant work and save us both time.

Open contact with me through ''SPCLists at gmail dot com'' (yes, I have a "real" e-mail address, this one is to deter bots. I'll send the real one once I hear from you).

===Favorite songs===
* [[051 - Championship]] Always sounds amazing
* [[073 - The Muppet Show Theme]]
* [[387 - Children of Sanchez]] Especially when playing snare
* [[164 - Carry On My Wayward Son]]
* [[034 - Patton Theme]]
* [[423 - Ghostbusters]]
* [[429 - Mr. Roboto]]
* The Anthems, because, as Bill said "It's really the only time we're all in tune and following closely. It's all downhill from there."
I'd list a couple more, but that'd just be silly.

===Least favorite songs===
* [[414 - Duel of the Fates]] AKA: Duel of the monotonous 16th notes
* [[420 - Soul Bossa Nova]] It's catchy, but I don't like Austin Powers at all
* [[020 - Live and Let Die]] Not a fan of the song or this arrangement

===Songs I'd like to read===
* [[066 - Classical Gas|"Just think of it in 1/4 time. Then the time signature never changes."]] It's a bear to conduct (I'd know, I tried), but I really like the original tune
* [[114 - Jump]] Another tough but good one
* [[208 - Land of Make Believe]] Great tune. We tried it once, but it didn't catch on with too many people.
* [[237 - Overture from "Tommy"]] Another great tune stuck as being a one-hit wonder. And both are great arrangements.
* [[255 - We Built this City]] and [[301 - Theme from Star Trek IV]] Accurate arrangements, but they may need reworks to be a little easier to play without a ''complete'' complement of instruments playing strongly

Talk:0.3 - Fox Sports Themes

2007-05-08T18:42:56Z

TrekMuse:

Didn't this also have baseball and something else on it? [[User:James|James]] 22:53, February 14, 2007 (EST)

It absolutely did, however I have absolutely no idea what else it had, so I didn't write anything. [[User:HLPXX|HLPXX]] 23:11, February 14, 2007 (EST)

Formatting Question: Do we want "Composed by" as seen here, or "Original composer:" as seen in 0.2? I'll do the footwork to make them uniform, but I wanted to get other people's opinions. I'm kinda split. [[User:TrekMuse|TrekMuse]] 12:28, May 8, 2007 (EDT)

The info we've been including so far has been labeled "written by", "arranged by", and "originally recorded by". As of right now there's no set layout for this info. [[User:Trick trickster|Trick trickster]] 14:21, May 8, 2007 (EDT)
:Would "composed by" sound better than "written by"? I don't know, that's probably just me. [[User:TrekMuse|TrekMuse]] 14:42, May 8, 2007 (EDT)