Talk:2007-2008 - Revision history

HLPXX at 19:19, November 27, 2007

2007-11-27T19:19:21Z

Trick trickster at 22:08, November 21, 2007

2007-11-21T22:08:09Z

Bickfa at 05:15, November 12, 2007

2007-11-12T05:15:50Z

Trick trickster at 04:58, November 12, 2007

2007-11-12T04:58:07Z

Bickfa: removing the link to the category which was deleted

2007-09-19T04:33:07Z

removing the link to the category which was deleted

Bickfa: I like Chris' idea

2007-09-17T20:05:18Z

I like Chris' idea

Trick trickster at 19:43, September 17, 2007

2007-09-17T19:43:41Z

TrekMuse at 16:30, September 17, 2007

2007-09-17T16:30:56Z

Bickfa: oops

2007-09-17T02:38:50Z

oops

Bickfa at 02:38, September 17, 2007

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 *Bickford, give me a week and I'll write up a summary. [[User:Trick trickster|Trick trickster]] 23:58, November 11, 2007 (EST)
 **Sounds good.  I just wanted to make sure that someone was planning on adding a summary of the trip.  [[User:Bickfa|Bickfa]] 00:15, November 12, 2007 (EST)
 *I've been working on a summary of the Clarkson/SLUT roadtrip, and have noticed that in order to make it encyclopedic, it makes the reading very dry.  I'd like to propose that on each year page there is a short summary of each roadtrip, with a link to a separate page for each trip where 1st person accounts of the trip can be shared (since one person isn't going to catch everything that happened anyway).  This would bridge the gap between encyclopedic and personal accounts, and would make each season page much shorter.  That's just one idea, if anyone has any others I'd like to hear them.[[User:Trick trickster|Trick trickster]] 17:08, November 21, 2007 (EST)

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	*Bickford, give me a week and I'll write up a summary. [[User:Trick trickster\|Trick trickster]] 23:58, November 11, 2007 (EST)		*Bickford, give me a week and I'll write up a summary. [[User:Trick trickster\|Trick trickster]] 23:58, November 11, 2007 (EST)
	**Sounds good. I just wanted to make sure that someone was planning on adding a summary of the trip. [[User:Bickfa\|Bickfa]] 00:15, November 12, 2007 (EST)		**Sounds good. I just wanted to make sure that someone was planning on adding a summary of the trip. [[User:Bickfa\|Bickfa]] 00:15, November 12, 2007 (EST)
		+	*I've been working on a summary of the Clarkson/SLUT roadtrip, and have noticed that in order to make it encyclopedic, it makes the reading very dry. I'd like to propose that on each year page there is a short summary of each roadtrip, with a link to a separate page for each trip where 1st person accounts of the trip can be shared (since one person isn't going to catch everything that happened anyway). This would bridge the gap between encyclopedic and personal accounts, and would make each season page much shorter. That's just one idea, if anyone has any others I'd like to hear them.[[User:Trick trickster\|Trick trickster]] 17:08, November 21, 2007 (EST)

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	***This is a much better idea than what I implemented last night with the Performances (2007-2008) category. James, could you delete that page for me? [[User:Bickfa\|Bickfa]] 16:05, September 17, 2007 (EDT)		***This is a much better idea than what I implemented last night with the Performances (2007-2008) category. James, could you delete that page for me? [[User:Bickfa\|Bickfa]] 16:05, September 17, 2007 (EDT)
	*Bickford, give me a week and I'll write up a summary. [[User:Trick trickster\|Trick trickster]] 23:58, November 11, 2007 (EST)		*Bickford, give me a week and I'll write up a summary. [[User:Trick trickster\|Trick trickster]] 23:58, November 11, 2007 (EST)
		+	**Sounds good. I just wanted to make sure that someone was planning on adding a summary of the trip. [[User:Bickfa\|Bickfa]] 00:15, November 12, 2007 (EST)

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	**This type of data would really only be useful to look at over the course of a season. Knowing what songs we play at every specific period break during the season? Not so much, and it would just make thing cluttered (not to mention cause the need to make a new page for every game and event that we play for). I'd say post it on your user page at the end of the season, or at monthly-ish intervals throughout the season, and link to it on the "Other" section on the season page. [[User:Trick trickster\|Trick trickster]] 15:43, September 17, 2007 (EDT)		**This type of data would really only be useful to look at over the course of a season. Knowing what songs we play at every specific period break during the season? Not so much, and it would just make thing cluttered (not to mention cause the need to make a new page for every game and event that we play for). I'd say post it on your user page at the end of the season, or at monthly-ish intervals throughout the season, and link to it on the "Other" section on the season page. [[User:Trick trickster\|Trick trickster]] 15:43, September 17, 2007 (EDT)
	***This is a much better idea than what I implemented last night with the Performances (2007-2008) category. James, could you delete that page for me? [[User:Bickfa\|Bickfa]] 16:05, September 17, 2007 (EDT)		***This is a much better idea than what I implemented last night with the Performances (2007-2008) category. James, could you delete that page for me? [[User:Bickfa\|Bickfa]] 16:05, September 17, 2007 (EDT)
		+	*Bickford, give me a week and I'll write up a summary. [[User:Trick trickster\|Trick trickster]] 23:58, November 11, 2007 (EST)

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 **I can see information on each game being useful in some ways.  Not any ways that we'll see right off the bat, of course, but at least somewhere it might be kinda nice to keep a record of things like what was played (song-wise, there's too much traffic to bother tracking cheers IMO), and major things that happen to the band (eg:  the football playoff game in Nov. 2003 when we were moved to behind the end zone b/c the Athletics Department wanted more room in the main grandstand).  Sometimes, yes, song selection is based more on available personnel than what the conductor and/or band would like to play.  But a list may still be helpful to help point out or avoid ruts and the like.  However, there may be a danger to making a permanent, publically available list of all pieces the Pep Band performs at every game.  Given how murky the relatively new field of Intellectual Property Law is, added to how touchy the music industry as a whole gets about their IP, the Pep Band (hell, all Pep Bands) could be construed as not properly following licensing.  It's a touchy field and horribly nebulous.  Basically, precident states (and industry upholds), if you're performing (or playing a recording of) something publically, you're required to pay a performance royalty to ... someone.  The recording company, the band, the copyright holder, ASCAP, - I'm honestly not 100% certain how that works technically.  Granted, I don't think they would care or bother as we're not turning a profit, and the fact that they'd pretty much be setting a legal precedent against every high school and college marching band, and every community band.  But, by posting such a set list publically, we'd certainly have put the ammunition in their guns for them should they direct their attention our way.  Perhaps put it behind a password?  Again, it might make for an interesting, though probably incomplete, database.  And the wiki isn't such a bad place for it.  But I don't know if positing it for all the world to see is a great idea.  [[User:TrekMuse|TrekMuse]] 12:30, September 17, 2007 (EDT)
 **This type of data would really only be useful to look at over the course of a season.  Knowing what songs we play at every specific period break during the season?  Not so much, and it would just make thing cluttered (not to mention cause the need to make a new page for every game and event that we play for).  I'd say post it on your user page at the end of the season, or at monthly-ish intervals throughout the season, and link to it on the "Other" section on the season page. [[User:Trick trickster|Trick trickster]] 15:43, September 17, 2007 (EDT)
-***This is a much better idea than what I implemented last night with the [[:Category:Performances (2007-2008)|Performances (2007-2008)]] category.  James, could you delete that page for me?  [[User:Bickfa|Bickfa]] 16:05, September 17, 2007 (EDT)
+***This is a much better idea than what I implemented last night with the Performances (2007-2008) category.  James, could you delete that page for me?  [[User:Bickfa|Bickfa]] 16:05, September 17, 2007 (EDT)

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	**I can see information on each game being useful in some ways. Not any ways that we'll see right off the bat, of course, but at least somewhere it might be kinda nice to keep a record of things like what was played (song-wise, there's too much traffic to bother tracking cheers IMO), and major things that happen to the band (eg: the football playoff game in Nov. 2003 when we were moved to behind the end zone b/c the Athletics Department wanted more room in the main grandstand). Sometimes, yes, song selection is based more on available personnel than what the conductor and/or band would like to play. But a list may still be helpful to help point out or avoid ruts and the like. However, there may be a danger to making a permanent, publically available list of all pieces the Pep Band performs at every game. Given how murky the relatively new field of Intellectual Property Law is, added to how touchy the music industry as a whole gets about their IP, the Pep Band (hell, all Pep Bands) could be construed as not properly following licensing. It's a touchy field and horribly nebulous. Basically, precident states (and industry upholds), if you're performing (or playing a recording of) something publically, you're required to pay a performance royalty to ... someone. The recording company, the band, the copyright holder, ASCAP, - I'm honestly not 100% certain how that works technically. Granted, I don't think they would care or bother as we're not turning a profit, and the fact that they'd pretty much be setting a legal precedent against every high school and college marching band, and every community band. But, by posting such a set list publically, we'd certainly have put the ammunition in their guns for them should they direct their attention our way. Perhaps put it behind a password? Again, it might make for an interesting, though probably incomplete, database. And the wiki isn't such a bad place for it. But I don't know if positing it for all the world to see is a great idea. [[User:TrekMuse\|TrekMuse]] 12:30, September 17, 2007 (EDT)		**I can see information on each game being useful in some ways. Not any ways that we'll see right off the bat, of course, but at least somewhere it might be kinda nice to keep a record of things like what was played (song-wise, there's too much traffic to bother tracking cheers IMO), and major things that happen to the band (eg: the football playoff game in Nov. 2003 when we were moved to behind the end zone b/c the Athletics Department wanted more room in the main grandstand). Sometimes, yes, song selection is based more on available personnel than what the conductor and/or band would like to play. But a list may still be helpful to help point out or avoid ruts and the like. However, there may be a danger to making a permanent, publically available list of all pieces the Pep Band performs at every game. Given how murky the relatively new field of Intellectual Property Law is, added to how touchy the music industry as a whole gets about their IP, the Pep Band (hell, all Pep Bands) could be construed as not properly following licensing. It's a touchy field and horribly nebulous. Basically, precident states (and industry upholds), if you're performing (or playing a recording of) something publically, you're required to pay a performance royalty to ... someone. The recording company, the band, the copyright holder, ASCAP, - I'm honestly not 100% certain how that works technically. Granted, I don't think they would care or bother as we're not turning a profit, and the fact that they'd pretty much be setting a legal precedent against every high school and college marching band, and every community band. But, by posting such a set list publically, we'd certainly have put the ammunition in their guns for them should they direct their attention our way. Perhaps put it behind a password? Again, it might make for an interesting, though probably incomplete, database. And the wiki isn't such a bad place for it. But I don't know if positing it for all the world to see is a great idea. [[User:TrekMuse\|TrekMuse]] 12:30, September 17, 2007 (EDT)
	**This type of data would really only be useful to look at over the course of a season. Knowing what songs we play at every specific period break during the season? Not so much, and it would just make thing cluttered (not to mention cause the need to make a new page for every game and event that we play for). I'd say post it on your user page at the end of the season, or at monthly-ish intervals throughout the season, and link to it on the "Other" section on the season page. [[User:Trick trickster\|Trick trickster]] 15:43, September 17, 2007 (EDT)		**This type of data would really only be useful to look at over the course of a season. Knowing what songs we play at every specific period break during the season? Not so much, and it would just make thing cluttered (not to mention cause the need to make a new page for every game and event that we play for). I'd say post it on your user page at the end of the season, or at monthly-ish intervals throughout the season, and link to it on the "Other" section on the season page. [[User:Trick trickster\|Trick trickster]] 15:43, September 17, 2007 (EDT)
		+	***This is a much better idea than what I implemented last night with the [[:Category:Performances (2007-2008)\|Performances (2007-2008)]] category. James, could you delete that page for me? [[User:Bickfa\|Bickfa]] 16:05, September 17, 2007 (EDT)

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	**I'm not even all that sure how useful the data would be since what songs are played on any given night is dependent things other than just the whim of the conductor such as instrumentation. However, if Malinski really wants to compile it, who am I to say no? [[User:Bickfa\|Bickfa]] 22:38, September 16, 2007 (EDT)		**I'm not even all that sure how useful the data would be since what songs are played on any given night is dependent things other than just the whim of the conductor such as instrumentation. However, if Malinski really wants to compile it, who am I to say no? [[User:Bickfa\|Bickfa]] 22:38, September 16, 2007 (EDT)
	**I can see information on each game being useful in some ways. Not any ways that we'll see right off the bat, of course, but at least somewhere it might be kinda nice to keep a record of things like what was played (song-wise, there's too much traffic to bother tracking cheers IMO), and major things that happen to the band (eg: the football playoff game in Nov. 2003 when we were moved to behind the end zone b/c the Athletics Department wanted more room in the main grandstand). Sometimes, yes, song selection is based more on available personnel than what the conductor and/or band would like to play. But a list may still be helpful to help point out or avoid ruts and the like. However, there may be a danger to making a permanent, publically available list of all pieces the Pep Band performs at every game. Given how murky the relatively new field of Intellectual Property Law is, added to how touchy the music industry as a whole gets about their IP, the Pep Band (hell, all Pep Bands) could be construed as not properly following licensing. It's a touchy field and horribly nebulous. Basically, precident states (and industry upholds), if you're performing (or playing a recording of) something publically, you're required to pay a performance royalty to ... someone. The recording company, the band, the copyright holder, ASCAP, - I'm honestly not 100% certain how that works technically. Granted, I don't think they would care or bother as we're not turning a profit, and the fact that they'd pretty much be setting a legal precedent against every high school and college marching band, and every community band. But, by posting such a set list publically, we'd certainly have put the ammunition in their guns for them should they direct their attention our way. Perhaps put it behind a password? Again, it might make for an interesting, though probably incomplete, database. And the wiki isn't such a bad place for it. But I don't know if positing it for all the world to see is a great idea. [[User:TrekMuse\|TrekMuse]] 12:30, September 17, 2007 (EDT)		**I can see information on each game being useful in some ways. Not any ways that we'll see right off the bat, of course, but at least somewhere it might be kinda nice to keep a record of things like what was played (song-wise, there's too much traffic to bother tracking cheers IMO), and major things that happen to the band (eg: the football playoff game in Nov. 2003 when we were moved to behind the end zone b/c the Athletics Department wanted more room in the main grandstand). Sometimes, yes, song selection is based more on available personnel than what the conductor and/or band would like to play. But a list may still be helpful to help point out or avoid ruts and the like. However, there may be a danger to making a permanent, publically available list of all pieces the Pep Band performs at every game. Given how murky the relatively new field of Intellectual Property Law is, added to how touchy the music industry as a whole gets about their IP, the Pep Band (hell, all Pep Bands) could be construed as not properly following licensing. It's a touchy field and horribly nebulous. Basically, precident states (and industry upholds), if you're performing (or playing a recording of) something publically, you're required to pay a performance royalty to ... someone. The recording company, the band, the copyright holder, ASCAP, - I'm honestly not 100% certain how that works technically. Granted, I don't think they would care or bother as we're not turning a profit, and the fact that they'd pretty much be setting a legal precedent against every high school and college marching band, and every community band. But, by posting such a set list publically, we'd certainly have put the ammunition in their guns for them should they direct their attention our way. Perhaps put it behind a password? Again, it might make for an interesting, though probably incomplete, database. And the wiki isn't such a bad place for it. But I don't know if positing it for all the world to see is a great idea. [[User:TrekMuse\|TrekMuse]] 12:30, September 17, 2007 (EDT)
		+	**This type of data would really only be useful to look at over the course of a season. Knowing what songs we play at every specific period break during the season? Not so much, and it would just make thing cluttered (not to mention cause the need to make a new page for every game and event that we play for). I'd say post it on your user page at the end of the season, or at monthly-ish intervals throughout the season, and link to it on the "Other" section on the season page. [[User:Trick trickster\|Trick trickster]] 15:43, September 17, 2007 (EDT)

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	***Along these lines, I've been kicking around ideas for content on the Freakout pages. I thought it might be nice to have a list of guest/ex-conductors, and what they conducted. I think a full breakdown of each song might be a bit much. [[User:HLPXX\|HLPXX]] 21:50, September 16, 2007 (EDT)		***Along these lines, I've been kicking around ideas for content on the Freakout pages. I thought it might be nice to have a list of guest/ex-conductors, and what they conducted. I think a full breakdown of each song might be a bit much. [[User:HLPXX\|HLPXX]] 21:50, September 16, 2007 (EDT)
	**I'm not even all that sure how useful the data would be since what songs are played on any given night is dependent things other than just the whim of the conductor such as instrumentation. However, if Malinski really wants to compile it, who am I to say no? [[User:Bickfa\|Bickfa]] 22:38, September 16, 2007 (EDT)		**I'm not even all that sure how useful the data would be since what songs are played on any given night is dependent things other than just the whim of the conductor such as instrumentation. However, if Malinski really wants to compile it, who am I to say no? [[User:Bickfa\|Bickfa]] 22:38, September 16, 2007 (EDT)
		+	**I can see information on each game being useful in some ways. Not any ways that we'll see right off the bat, of course, but at least somewhere it might be kinda nice to keep a record of things like what was played (song-wise, there's too much traffic to bother tracking cheers IMO), and major things that happen to the band (eg: the football playoff game in Nov. 2003 when we were moved to behind the end zone b/c the Athletics Department wanted more room in the main grandstand). Sometimes, yes, song selection is based more on available personnel than what the conductor and/or band would like to play. But a list may still be helpful to help point out or avoid ruts and the like. However, there may be a danger to making a permanent, publically available list of all pieces the Pep Band performs at every game. Given how murky the relatively new field of Intellectual Property Law is, added to how touchy the music industry as a whole gets about their IP, the Pep Band (hell, all Pep Bands) could be construed as not properly following licensing. It's a touchy field and horribly nebulous. Basically, precident states (and industry upholds), if you're performing (or playing a recording of) something publically, you're required to pay a performance royalty to ... someone. The recording company, the band, the copyright holder, ASCAP, - I'm honestly not 100% certain how that works technically. Granted, I don't think they would care or bother as we're not turning a profit, and the fact that they'd pretty much be setting a legal precedent against every high school and college marching band, and every community band. But, by posting such a set list publically, we'd certainly have put the ammunition in their guns for them should they direct their attention our way. Perhaps put it behind a password? Again, it might make for an interesting, though probably incomplete, database. And the wiki isn't such a bad place for it. But I don't know if positing it for all the world to see is a great idea. [[User:TrekMuse\|TrekMuse]] 12:30, September 17, 2007 (EDT)

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 **I'll link them off my user page - I'll fix it as soon as I get a chance.  [[User:Malins|Malinski]] 20:03, September 16, 2007 (EDT)
 ***Along these lines, I've been kicking around ideas for content on the Freakout pages.  I thought it might be nice to have a list of guest/ex-conductors, and what they conducted.  I think a full breakdown of each song might be a bit much.  [[User:HLPXX|HLPXX]] 21:50, September 16, 2007 (EDT)
 **I'm not even all that sure how useful the data would be since what songs are played on any given night is dependent things other than just the whim of the conductor such as instrumentation.  However, if Malinski really wants to compile it, who am I to say no?  [[User:Bickfa|Bickfa]] 22:38, September 16, 2007 (EDT)

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	**I'll link them off my user page - I'll fix it as soon as I get a chance. [[User:Malins\|Malinski]] 20:03, September 16, 2007 (EDT)		**I'll link them off my user page - I'll fix it as soon as I get a chance. [[User:Malins\|Malinski]] 20:03, September 16, 2007 (EDT)
	***Along these lines, I've been kicking around ideas for content on the Freakout pages. I thought it might be nice to have a list of guest/ex-conductors, and what they conducted. I think a full breakdown of each song might be a bit much. [[User:HLPXX\|HLPXX]] 21:50, September 16, 2007 (EDT)		***Along these lines, I've been kicking around ideas for content on the Freakout pages. I thought it might be nice to have a list of guest/ex-conductors, and what they conducted. I think a full breakdown of each song might be a bit much. [[User:HLPXX\|HLPXX]] 21:50, September 16, 2007 (EDT)
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		+	**I'm not even all that sure how useful the data would be since what songs are played on any given night is dependent things other than just the whim of the conductor such as instrumentation. However, if Malinski really wants to compile it, who am I to say no? [[User:Bickfa\|Bickfa]] 22:38, September 16, 2007 (EDT)